Pretraining vs Posttraining: Research Culture and Verifiability

Source: Tweet Date: 2026-04-03

Summary

Insightful tweet on the culture difference between pretraining and post-training research, and why verifiability makes post-training harder to study rigorously.

Key Claims

  • Pretraining research (“kernels and optimizers”) is often perceived as more technically rigorous — harder math, more precise benchmarks.
  • Posttraining research (“vibes-driven”) has weaker verifiability: what makes a better aligned model is harder to measure than kernel throughput.
  • But: weaker verifiability means posttraining research may actually require more judgment and insight, not less.
  • The unrecognized skill: posttraining researchers who can reliably improve model behavior without clear metrics are doing something very hard.

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